This is my conversation with Raziya Mahmut - a woman who has escaped a potentially gruesome fate - while her family remains in China, amidst this genocide.
Raziya is a full-time biologist in Canada, but still keeps up with her advocacy, as the vice president of International Support For Uyghurs.
She has two masters degrees and a Ph.D. in biology. She speaks Uighur, Mandarin, French, English, Turkish, Kazak, Uzbek.
And did all this against all odds.
Listen to her story - because too many people don't even know it exists.